Cannot add point on toe kick on Y-Axis

    • July 7, 2017 at 12:29 pm #138225
      Denis Larion
      Participant

      Has anyone encountered any issues when trying to modify toe kick by adding a point and placing it on the Y-Axis? Once I right click on the toe kick, click “edit shape”, then right click on one of the end points to bring up the “Point menu” and click “Add” – it will only let me add it on the X-Axis (horizontally) and not on the Y-Axis (vertically).

      Is there any way to fix this?

    • July 9, 2017 at 9:15 pm #138260

      It’s because of the shape of the kicker. 2020 Design is not a full CAD program so shapes tend to be locked down. <span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>The kicker shape is adjustable in height only across it’s full length.</span>

      I recently had a tapezoid shape added as a panel but you can’t add points to it. I’ve been asking for ages for the ability to design a vertical surface in the same way as a benchtop.

      I know of no way in 2020 design to accomplish what you want. I’ve used the Surface tool to design some really odd shaped splashbacks but afaik you can’t make these into a kicker.

      The ONLY option I can suggest is to design the shape you want in Sketchup and then import it into your design.

    • July 10, 2017 at 7:22 am #138262
      Denis Larion
      Participant

      It works from time to time. And I used to do it without any problem. Something must have happened with the latest update, or something.

    • July 10, 2017 at 10:31 am #138272
      Neil Wilson
      Participant

      Hey Denis,

      You are correct.  It does seem that in 11.8 the ability to move the in the edit is a lot finickier than in previous builds.  I have had success with quickly snapping the mouse in the direction I want the line to go and have also had it work when I go super slow to make sure the mouse is going straight up.  I will add your comments to the case hopefully it will be addressed in a future release.

      Neil

    • July 10, 2017 at 10:47 am #138274
      Denis Larion
      Participant

      Hi Neil,

      Thanks for the input.

      I have noticed the same thing. Sometimes (not always), if I wait a second or two once I click edit point, and then slowly move the mouse upward, it will work but only once in 10 different instances. The same thing happens for countertops, if I right click on a horizontal line and then add line, it will sometimes add it sideways (on the X-Axis) instead of going up or down (on Y-Axis), which makes no sense .

      Yes, hopefully this will be fixed on the next build. I do a lot of custom placement of mouldings and countertops and instead of spending  60-90 seconds I sometimes spend 5-10 minutes by working around the problem.

    • July 10, 2017 at 10:50 am #138275
      Neil Wilson
      Participant

      One other thing you can look at Denis is to go in to your preferences, go to work area and in work area make sure that the Disable Placement Zone Drag Settings is checked.  That fixes a lot of issues with “it just won’t move that way”  🙂

      Neil

    • July 10, 2017 at 11:16 am #138276
      Denis Larion
      Participant

      I think it might fix something else. By default it was unchecked. I checked the box but it did not fix this particular issue.

    • July 10, 2017 at 11:17 am #138277
      Denis Larion
      Participant

      I really hope they will fix it on the next release.

      • July 17, 2017 at 12:59 pm #139134
        Kim Mattar
        Participant

        This is a problem for me as well. I am unable to edit my moldings now. This should NOT be happening with such a professional program.

    • July 10, 2017 at 11:56 am #138302
      Jonathan Desimini
      Participant

      Have the same exact problem. I’ve noticed if I zoom out enough and bring the starting point into the proper quadrant on the screen I have a better probably for making the “added” point go in the proper direction. I think often when the point is to the far left and in the middle of the screen, after you select add, the system instantly thinks you’re adding a point in a horizontal fashion. But I completely agree. Adding points should take 1 or 2 minutes at max. I’m spending 10 -15 minutes on some of the more complicated designs I’ve worked on this week. It has me at the point of walking away from this program. Seems every release is one step forward and five backward.

    • July 10, 2017 at 7:28 pm #138449

      Am I missing something? I’ve assumed that you are talking about changing the kicker (height/shape) on the elevation but do you mean changing it on the floorplan?

      If this is the case then apologies for the above. I’m not on V11.8 as I found some bugs in it. V11.6 edits kickers fine. Running line method also works fine in V11.6

       

       

    • July 11, 2017 at 7:29 am #138460
      Denis Larion
      Participant

      I was talking about modifying length and corners of the toe kick or furniture base moulding. 2020 does not automatically place the mouldings wherever I need so I need to modify it. So I enter the edit menu of the moulding, right click on one the end of the moulding and click “Add point”. At this very moment 2020 will almost always (9 times out of 10 different instences) will only allow me to add the point on a horizontal line even if I move the mouse up to turn the moulding 90° on it’s Y-Axis.

      Anyhow, it looks like it’s not just me. Same thing happens to my coworkers but luckily for most of them, they don’t deal with a lot of custom work.

      I’m not even thinking of a work around anymore, I’m just hoping for a fix on the next release.

    • July 11, 2017 at 8:39 pm #138519

      Why don’t you just use the ‘Running Line’ method – it’s one of the shapes you can use. If my auto-design kickers are playing up (as they occasionally do), I just delete them using the list view then draw my running line where I want the kickers, right click on the running line and turn it into a kicker. It’s quick and easy and works 100% of the time.

      Example video here:

      https://www.dropbox.com/s/lbhy53nmw5q2wb5/running%20line.webm?dl=0

      The same process can be used for any moulding although you will have to raise them into place once you have made them 3D

       

    • July 12, 2017 at 7:35 am #138531
      Denis Larion
      Participant

      I do that on island, but not on the rest of the kitchen…toe kick needs to be 3″ in from the front of the cabinet so it would take forever to place the toe kick. It would be easier to just drop it and modify the widths to kind of connect without linking them.

    • July 12, 2017 at 7:22 pm #138607

      Ah OK so you like your drawings to be exact (mutters something about ‘anal retentive’).

      Nope, I agree with you there – the issue needs a fix. I have shapes I drop in when I need to follow tile lines so in quite a few circumstances, the kicker position needs to be accurate to make sure we are covering the foor tile lines.

       

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