Decorative Catalog – What do you think?

  • April 7, 2016 at 11:56 am #84350
    2020
    Keymaster

    You may have seen our recent mailer showing the huge difference decorative items can make to your designs. We’re quite excited by recent updates to the catalog, exclusively available in 2020 Cloud but we want to know what you think!

    Did you add any items? If not, why not? Are there items you were looking for but didn’t see?

    We’re constantly adding more decorative items, & your suggestions and thoughts are important to us so let us know what you think!

    UPDATED June 26th – Did you know you can now review all the Decorative Items on a web page and submit suggestions for new items? Check it out!

  • April 7, 2016 at 2:40 pm #84377
    Wendy
    Participant

    It’s great to see the regular updates on this catalog. Please keep them coming 🙂

  • April 25, 2016 at 12:35 pm #86038
    Peggy C. Rimkus
    Participant

    1) The only catalog I see on mine is Manufacturers and it is mostly appliances and plumbing. I am very new at the 2020 Cloud. How do I get the Decorative Catalog (among others) and how do I get notifications about updates, as I am not getting any now.? Have had my own key of 2020 about 4 1/2 months.

  • April 25, 2016 at 12:38 pm #86040
    Peggy C. Rimkus
    Participant

    Nevermind. Duh, just figured out where it is. Still would like update notifications, though.

    Thanks.

  • April 25, 2016 at 4:51 pm #86081
    2020
    Keymaster

    Hi Peggy,

    Glad you figured it out. We are in fact working on some ideas to deliver notifications.

    For the moment though, the best way is just to check in the Newsfeed of your 2020 Cloud window. When we have an update or a new release we post a note in there.

    You’ll also see usage tips and other handy entries!

    Best,

    2020 Admin

     

  • May 12, 2016 at 8:33 am #88406
    Joanne Smith
    Participant

    Hi. I’ve been using Fusion for quite a while and Advance Graphics were very boring. I did manage to find a few items in Advanced Graphics that I changed sizes and colours of and Saved in my Unit Groups. I was very excited (sad or what) to have some new items to play with on 2020 Cloud, yet a very large percentage are THE SAME as Advanced Graphics. Some nice new additions, BUT WHY ARE THEY LOCKED! They cannot be changed in size/colour etc. Or can they ?

    J

  • May 12, 2016 at 11:56 am #88409
    James Wilson
    2020 Moderator

    Hi Joanne. Many thanks for your post – it’s great to hear there’s excitement around the 2020 Cloud Decorative Items catalog 🙂 We have indeed incorporated much of the existing Fusion Advanced Graphics items into the Decorative Items catalog, but there’s also many hundreds of brand new items that you wouldn’t have seen before in 2020 Fusion. The Decorative Items catalog will also continue to be enhanced and updated on a regular basis – in fact, a further 300+ additional items are going to be streamed to you live from 2020 Cloud over the next few days. As you have noted, a current restriction of 2020 Cloud within 2020 Fusion means that you are unable to change the dimensions and materials of items. This will be addressed as we start to introduce more configurable ‘cloud based’ items in future 2020 Cloud and 2020 Fusion releases.

    Again, thanks for your post.

  • May 13, 2016 at 4:34 am #88476
    James Wilson
    2020 Moderator

    Hi Joanne. Just an additional comment to yesterday’s post; you should already be able to change the dimensions of items coming from the 2020 Cloud Decorative Catalog. I’m not sure if you’re using the latest version of 2020 Fusion, but perhaps you could let us know if you are unable to change dimensions when using version 4.5.4.10, which is available for you to download and install in the usual way.

    Many thanks.

  • June 2, 2016 at 4:11 pm #90982
    DeeDee Foster
    Participant

    Where do I find the Decorative Catalog on the Cloud?

  • June 2, 2016 at 4:17 pm #90984
    James Wilson
    2020 Moderator

    Hi Deedee, once you’ve logged into 2020 Cloud and clicked on the browse tab, you can choose 2020 as the manufacturer, and the Decorative Items catalog will then be available as a choice in the list of catalogs.

    I hope this helps.

    James

  • June 2, 2016 at 4:48 pm #90986
    DeeDee Foster
    Participant

    Great!  I have most of those items anyway, but there are a few new ones.  Thanks so much for your help.  Have a great rest of your day!

     

  • June 21, 2016 at 1:55 pm #92912
    de VOLONTAT
    Participant

    Hi all,

    This cloud catalog is really fine, but……..!

    Why is it impossible to change the different textures on the Items (in the French catalog it is impossible).

    Is it an oversight ?

  • June 21, 2016 at 2:35 pm #92937
    James Wilson
    2020 Moderator

    Hi, currently 2020 Cloud supports non-configurable items only, so it is not possible to change the materials for Decorative items. We are continuing to develop and enhance 2020 Cloud, and in later phases, it will allow items to be fully configured.

    Thanks

  • June 21, 2016 at 2:38 pm #92938
    Neil Wilson
    Participant

    Hi De Volontat,

    It’s impossible in all the cloud catalogs. That variable has not been unlocked in the cloud catalogs yet. Please remember that the cloud project is still in the open beta phase of its development and is by no means a completed feature.

    Neil

  • June 21, 2016 at 2:39 pm #92939
    Neil Wilson
    Participant

    or what James said while I was typing my reply 🙂

  • July 4, 2016 at 3:41 pm #94157
    Pheydra Schworm
    Participant

    I am new to the cloud also. I do love the extra options it provides but I am not finding items that you would see in most kitchens that I would love to put in the designs. Examples are food storage such as square lift lid containers, bottles of ketchup, large vinegar bottles, dog food bins, adult beverage bottles, soda cans, regular trash bins for pantries, soup cans, cereal boxes, kitchen stools, and other kitchen basics. A lot of my clients need help visualizing what each cabinet or pantry space will be used for and I find that hard to show right now. Am I missing something? Whenever I use Sketch up it makes my designs VERY SLOW or crashes my 2020 so I don’t don’t have that option even though I have a great high end computer. ?Any info is appreciated. Thanks!

  • July 6, 2016 at 5:57 am #94350
    James Wilson
    2020 Moderator

    Many thanks for yoor feedback on the Decorative Items catalog. So that we could look into your request for new items to be added, is it possible for you to provide some images (or links to websites) for exactly what you had in mind?

    As for your issues with Sketchup, I’ll leave our Support Team to provide a response.

  • July 6, 2016 at 12:06 pm #94390
    Pheydra Schworm
    Participant

    Great. Thank you! I will find several examples and send them to you.

     

  • July 27, 2016 at 1:59 pm #96673
    Tom
    Participant

    Just now activated the cloud. I was having a bit of troulbe getting it going, but from what I can see, It is going to be a great tool. So many questions —- !!!

    Only one I want to ask right now is – are there any sinks to be able to put into my drawing? there are a limited few in the catalog itself, but I am looking for a small bar sink to use in an optometrist office.

    This is really cool!!

    Tom

  • July 27, 2016 at 2:37 pm #96675
    2020
    Keymaster

    Hi Tom

    We’re pleased to hear you’ve discovered the 2020 Cloud and can see the vision of what we will be bringing to our customers in the near future. Right now, we have only just begun to roll out certain types of content, such as appliances and decorative items.

    We’d be happy to answer any of your questions to guide you on your way with 2020 Design and 2020 Cloud, but to answer your first question, we do not yet have a range of sinks available in North America, though we are continually adding new content. Was there a particular manufacturer or product that you were looking for? This would help us prioritize future content types.

    Thanks!
    2020

  • August 19, 2016 at 12:40 pm #98514
    susan Kemp, CKD
    Participant

    It would be great to be able to have time to decorate the designs, but the volume we do does not allow time to pretty them up.

  • October 12, 2016 at 5:04 pm #106778
    Andrea Chala
    Participant

    Can you add pets such as Dogs, Cats, Fish or/an any other type of pets? Also, people…. kids, but mostly a woman or man that is not in a business attire or suit.

     

    Thanks!

  • October 12, 2016 at 9:33 pm #106780

    Susan, it is worth looking at using the AutoDeco assistant. The assistant can be customised and is a very effective way of quickly enhancing drawings. Agreed it needs the ‘standard’ catalogs and won’t use the cloud items but it works VERY well in most circumstances (once customised – the V11 defaults are quite odd compared to the V9 versions).

    I work for a company with 20+ designers and each designer gets through 3-5 drawings a day. We find the AutoDeco assistant is the best way of providing a quick and easy enhancement of a basic design. I do have a few designers who then go the extra distance for some really flashy effects but mainly on the top end kitchens.

  • October 13, 2016 at 9:29 am #106781
    James Wilson
    2020 Moderator

    Hi Andrea, thanks for your requests. We are already planning a release of the Decorative Items catalog before the end of October. We will therefore take on board your requirements and include as many as we can for this release.

    Thanks

    James

  • October 13, 2016 at 9:43 am #106782
    de VOLONTAT
    Participant

    Hi all,

    does Pets and animals, etc…are really the priority ?

    Remember that 2020 is used all around the word and decorative items like we have in the cloud are for me really important.

    Pets and things like that can be found on 3DWarehouse.

    We have near than 400 users in RB showrooms all around the word and they never ask me to create things like that.

     

    Regards

  • October 13, 2016 at 9:49 am #106783
    James Wilson
    2020 Moderator

    We are happy to receive any requests for the Decorative catalog. If you have any other specific suggestions for new items, then please add them to this thread and we’ll see what can be done. Please note though that the decorative catalog is there for non-manufacturer specific products and items to dress your designs to provide more realism for your customers.

  • October 13, 2016 at 9:59 am #106792
    de VOLONTAT
    Participant

    Hi,

    we need more balconies, stairs, railings…..curtains…..

    i know that this cloud beta version doesn’t have the control of the materials.

    It will be  marvellous when we will have it.

    But, thanks a lot for all the items we can find.

  • October 13, 2016 at 10:09 am #106794
    James Wilson
    2020 Moderator

    Thanks – so that we can prioritze your specific requirements for balconies, stairs, railings & curtains, could you provide one or two example images of exactly what you’re looking for? This may enable us to provide some of these for the Decorative Catalog release later this month.

    We appreciate your requests – please keep them coming

  • October 13, 2016 at 10:23 am #106803
    de VOLONTAT
    Participant

    How can we put a picture in the message to show you ?

    The image icone ask me the source……but….

     

    Thx

  • October 13, 2016 at 10:27 am #106805
    2020
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    To upload an image, use the ‘Browse’ button below the post to select your file(s) – right next to the ‘Submit’ button.

    Thanks!

    2020 Admin

     

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  • October 13, 2016 at 10:31 am #106823
    de VOLONTAT
    Participant

    Something we draw because we need it a lot to put outside….rails

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  • October 13, 2016 at 10:34 am #106832
    de VOLONTAT
    Participant

    Rails again, but inside

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  • October 13, 2016 at 10:37 am #106841
    de VOLONTAT
    Participant

    Curtains……we use really a lot of different ones….

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  • October 13, 2016 at 10:42 am #106851
    de VOLONTAT
    Participant

    Stairs………

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  • October 13, 2016 at 10:44 am #106860
    de VOLONTAT
    Participant

    Flowers….(tall ones)

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  • October 13, 2016 at 10:49 am #106869
    de VOLONTAT
    Participant

    that is example of decoratives items we use a lot…..

    but so differents all around the world.

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  • October 14, 2016 at 4:47 am #107013
    James Wilson
    2020 Moderator

    Thanks – we’ll look at the 6 images supplied and see what can be done for the next Deco Items release.

  • December 12, 2016 at 11:50 am #114134
    James Wilson
    2020 Moderator

    Hi

    Just in case you haven’t seen it already, we have added some new curtains, rails, and flowers/plants into the latest version of the Decorative Items catalog – available now.

    Thanks

    James

  • February 10, 2017 at 6:13 pm #119862
    teresam
    Participant

    I am new to the Cloud and working with 2020 Design Version 11. The only catalogs that I can view on the cloud are appliances. I’m in Canada is there a way to access these other catalogs such as the Decorative Items and how do I do so? Also is it possible to import images for surfaces with the 2020 Design?

    Thanks!

    Teresa

  • April 13, 2017 at 6:48 am #125016
    Virang Kundhani
    Participant

    Hi,

    It’s great to view the regular updates on this decorative catalog.

    Keep continue sharing.

    Thanks

  • April 13, 2017 at 6:54 am #125017
    James Wilson
    2020 Moderator

    Hi Virang

    We really appreciate your feedback. We will of course continue to update the decorative catalog on a regaular basis with new and useful items.

    Thanks

    James

  • April 13, 2017 at 6:58 am #125018
    James Wilson
    2020 Moderator

    Hi Teresa

    The Decorative Items catalog should be available to all 2020 Cloud customers. You should be able to select it by choosing ‘2020’ from the list of manufacturers. If you can’t find it, please contact our Support Team who will be able to resolve this for you very quickly.

    Please let me know once you’re up and running?

    Thanks

    James

  • May 26, 2017 at 2:29 am #131555
    Barbara Tom
    Participant

    This is really nice idea to decor home. I am here in Australia and looking for the decorative ideas and I have just bought few from Casa Uno Homewares and these are nice to decor home!

  • June 8, 2017 at 8:50 pm #134064
    debbiem
    Participant

    I think the cloud is great! I thought I saw where we were going to have a TV option that is wall mounted but I only see TVs mounted on stands. Am I missing something?

     

  • June 9, 2017 at 5:26 am #134067
    Shaun O’Hare
    2020 Expert

    Hi Debbiem,

    There are a collection of wall and stand mounted TV’s which are available today within the Decorative catalog.

    These products can be found under the ‘Televisions’ section within the table of contents drop down filer (3rd filter from the top of the 2020 Cloud product browser).

    Alternatively, you can type ‘television’ into the filter field.

    Many thanks

    Shaun

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  • June 9, 2017 at 6:30 am #134084
    debbiem
    Participant

    Thanks Shaun,

    Yes that is where I’ve been looking for wall mounted TVs. All I see are 19 stand mounted TVs. Great selection of stand mounts but I don’t see any wall mounts per the descriptions.

  • June 9, 2017 at 6:44 am #134085
    Shaun O’Hare
    2020 Expert

    Hi Debbiem,

    We currently have 33 TV’s available.

    By default, the number of product displayed per page is configured to 20 results. The majority of the wall mounted televisions can be found on page 2 (example images attached).

    Please can you confirm whether you can find the products you are looking for on page 2?

    Thanks
    Shaun

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  • June 9, 2017 at 1:55 pm #134248
    debbiem
    Participant

    Thank you Shaun! Yes I see now that there is a page two. I just didn’t see that! The fonts on my laptop are set so small because I also use a separate monitor and this was the only way tech support could set it up (I don’t understand this and maybe I can find a forum to help me with it) that I just didn’t see the page arrow. Thank you so much for pointing it out to me. This is the first time I’ve used the forum and I’m impressed!! Thanks again.

  • June 9, 2017 at 2:04 pm #134274
    2020
    Keymaster

    Hi Debbiem,
    We’re glad you’re enjoying using 2020 Cloud and the Forum!

    In case you hadn’t seen this in the Newsfeed of 2020 Cloud, we have compiled a post on useful hints & tips which you might like. For example, with your multiple monitor setup you may find it useful to drag the 2020 Cloud browser completely out of 2020 Design to maximise your real estate.

    https://www.2020spaces.com/need-little-help/

    Best,

    2020 Admin

  • June 9, 2017 at 2:14 pm #134290
    debbiem
    Participant

    Awesome! And I can see it!! Now any tips on how to get the fonts on my laptop screen bigger in 2020? Thanks a bunch!!

  • June 9, 2017 at 2:31 pm #134330
    2020
    Keymaster

    Hmm – that’s an interesting one. Sounds like a system setting, rather than a 2020 Design setting.  Are other application font small on that screen too? Depending on your screen resolution & OS, you could try something like this (this is for Windows 10):

    https://www.windowscentral.com/how-make-text-apps-bigger-windows-10

    I’ve used this technique in the past – you can adjust differently for each screen. You probably have to sign out & back in to Windows to see any changes.

    Hope that helps….

    2020 Admin

  • June 26, 2017 at 11:58 am #136383
    Mike Cook
    Participant

    In version 11.8 Can we still have access to decorative items when offline? It would be nice to sill have access to the in program items, perhaps an on off in preferences.

  • June 26, 2017 at 2:05 pm #136424
    2020
    Keymaster

    Hi Mike,
    This isn’t available in v11.8, however while offline you can still reposition, resize & retexture decorative items that you have already added to your designs.

  • July 6, 2017 at 10:58 am #138140
    Michelle Raymer
    Participant

    Hi!

    Maybe there’s a step I’m missing but when I click the “browse” tab it tells me to sign in but doesn’t give me an option to sign in anywhere. Could you please advise? Thank you!

  • July 6, 2017 at 11:08 am #138144
    James Wilson
    2020 Moderator

    Hi Michelle

    Hopefully the thread below will help:

    https://www.2020spaces.com/forums/topic/2020-cloud-no-sign-in-under-the-browse-tab/

    Please let me know if this resolves your issue?

    Thanks

    James

  • July 30, 2017 at 11:32 am #140733
    Pam Nobbs
    Participant

    Hi. My coworker & I are fairly new to using 2020 Cloud, and we’re struggling. Right now I’m trying to add pendant light fixtures to my design and, of course, those used to be in the Drag & Drop list in the Room catalog.  All that remains there now is reference to the Cloud.  Accessing the Cloud, I only find appliance catalogs.  Sorry if I’m behind the rest of the group…I’m sure i’m overlooking something. If I need to add a lighting catalog, where would I find those, and how would I add?  Thanks in advance.

    Pam

  • July 30, 2017 at 11:34 am #140734
    Pam Nobbs
    Participant

    Alright, gang, immediately after sending this inquiry, I went back to try again and FOUND the decorative lighting!  Ignore ignore ignore me.  Thanks.

    Pam

  • July 31, 2017 at 8:56 pm #140819
    Jonathan Desimini
    Participant
    Window Example

    These types of windows are becoming so popular and yet theres few ways to accomplish.

    Can we please please please add better windows (and doors). Why is it that half of the windows and doors in the ROOM catalog have the option in variables to change the frame style but when you change it, no visual change occurs.  Also, can’t we get some more “architectural” windows and doors? Arched and Barn Doors would be great, both interior and entryways (for the Arched that is). Also arched doorways that have casing molding on them should be available. Sometimes it seems like the basics are missing and yet intricate detailed pieces are being added instead.

     

  • August 1, 2017 at 4:40 pm #140907
    Santiago Morales
    2020 Expert

    Hello Jonathan,

    You bring out a good point.  We will look into adding new architectural windows and doors into our ROOM catalog.  Please provide us with various examples (with pictures) of popular doors and window styles (including dimensions ranges) you think should be added.

    Can you contact ResidentialSupport@2020spaces.com with the items models you feel are missing “basics”?  We would like to follow-up.

    Thank you,

    Santiago

  • August 17, 2017 at 7:27 am #143411
    Jodi Gould
    Participant

    I used to use my drop down menus for lighting and I was able to manipulate them so much.  It was very important to the overall look of my renderings.  Now I have such little control over my own lighting with the cloud.  No fixtures in the cloud are any I would put in my designs.  I wish they would keep it simple so that we could manipulate them as we need to, i.e.: size, shape, color, light output.  Please tell me this will change.

  • August 17, 2017 at 11:30 am #143578
    Neil Wilson
    Participant

    Hi Jodi,

    The Lighting you used to use from the Room_fur catalog is still available.  In the catalog categories, just above the notification that we have moved stuff to the cloud you should see Lighting Fixtures.  If you click on that it should open up to the lighting you have always used.

    Neil

  • August 21, 2017 at 10:57 am #143975
    Santiago Morales
    2020 Expert

    Hello,

    @Jodi, we understand the Cloud lighting fixtures should have the same type of controls as the lights of the Room_Fur catalogs.  We will augment the Cloud lighting capabilities in a future release of 2020 Design.

    Thank you,

    Santiago

  • October 18, 2017 at 2:06 pm #154167
    Christopher Robles
    Participant

    Hello I just want to say that I have been playing with the 2020 cloud for about a week now and without the ability to change the dimensions and color of the decoration models they are quite useless. I am currently trying to add curtains to a window but all of your curtains are 94″ long. Nobody putts curtains on a sliding glass window so your models are useless in any real world situations.

  • October 19, 2017 at 9:54 am #154256
    Neil Wilson
    Participant

    Hi Christopher,

    We looked into the curtains and you are correct 🙂 We can change the height but not the width or depth.  This is not how it is supposed to be so we have opened a bug and will have our team take a look at it.

    Neil

  • October 19, 2017 at 2:10 pm #154315
    Neil Wilson
    Participant

    Hi Chris,

    Just an update.  Further testing here has found that it works.  Which version of 2020 are you running?  Also when you are in the cloud, when you click on the catalog drop down, where it says 2020 Decorative Items US, on the right it will show you the version of the catalog.  You want it to be 12.2.

    Neil

  • October 23, 2017 at 12:24 pm #154618
    Christopher Robles
    Participant

    Thank you for looking into this for me Neil. I am running version 2020 Design  (11.8.0.53) 2017-06-01. I am using the 12.2 catalog. I tested the dimension of the blinds along with an assortment of other items. Everything seems to working fine now. I appreciate your help and would like to say I have never seen such a speedy fix to a program like this. Thank you!

    Chris.

  • February 13, 2018 at 6:40 pm #170308
    John Paul Ramos
    Participant

    Hi. I am new to 2020 cloud. Can anyone direct me to find the ceiling lights? How can I add these lighting into my drawings. Thank you.

  • February 14, 2018 at 10:30 am #170413
    Neil Wilson
    Participant

    Hi John Paul,

    You can find a bunch of lights in the cloud by selecting 2020 in the manufacturers field in the browse tab of the Cloud and typing “ceiling light” in the filter field.  The only drawback of using lighting fixtures from the cloud is that they haven’t added the actual light to the images yet so they don’t generate any illumination.  The Lighting fixtures that are available in the Room_Fur catalog still put out light so for that I would recommend using them.

    Hope that helps

    Neil

  • February 21, 2018 at 1:07 pm #171867
    James Garland
    Participant

    Wow, has anyone else had this happen…when placing an order through 2020 Live Order, has uploaded design rejected until items, placed in the design from the Cloud, were deleted from the design. I’ve had it happen  a few times. Astonishing! Irritating! 2020 never ceases to amaze…

  • February 21, 2018 at 1:46 pm #171870
    Neil Wilson
    Participant

    Hi James,

    We are aware of the issue with uploading cloud items to Live Order and are working to resolve it in an upcoming release.

    Neil

  • April 23, 2018 at 11:44 am #183039
    Daniel Lalonde
    Participant

    hello im trying to lots of download of all decor item and all appliance as well ;i just cant get it can some help here where to go

  • April 27, 2018 at 12:00 pm #184003
    Julie DiMenna
    Participant

    Having no luck finding the new people in the cloud. Version 11.8.0.53.

    Anyone? Anyone?

  • April 27, 2018 at 5:12 pm #184058
    Neil Wilson
    Participant

    Hi Julie,

    This is one of the rare occasions where the North American market is behind the curve.  The people have been added to the UK market region but have not yet been added to the North American market region.  You can change your market region in your 2020spaces profile.

    Neil

  • April 30, 2018 at 3:23 am #184076

    Hi Neil,

    Can we get the TM5 and TM31 Thermomix units (or similar) added to the cloud wishlist please.

    Thanks

    Mike

     

  • May 4, 2018 at 10:52 am #185223
    Ashley Rocca
    Participant

    Can someone tell me how where the “new” are  in the decorative cat? I’ve downloaded the new version and the people have disappeared from my 2020 cloud…

     

  • August 16, 2018 at 11:38 am #199962
    Ariana Thompson
    Participant

    When I use lighting that throws no actual light, I grab a puck light from the Room Catalog, recolour it, and hide it inside the fixture – so it “looks” like it’s throwing light.

    😉

  • August 16, 2018 at 2:06 pm #200084

    I would love to see more lighting and plumbing fixtures – maybe something MUCH more current?  Specifically pendant and vanity lights, and ANY sinks and faucets that are the current trend (single tub undermount, large farm sinks, etc.).  And with the ability to modify them (size, colors, etc.).  Also more tile – again, something that’s more current and up-to-date.  There isn’t even a decent subway tile that I can modify anywhere, let alone any of the more current tile styles! And while I’m a fan of my User Catalog, it would save me some time and effort if some of the basics were in the system that I could modify for my purposes.  How about a 12″ x 24″ floor tile in an offset pattern?  Or some glass and stone mosaics that aren’t 1″ squares?  Just add a few more options to the Editable Tiles sections, and it would help.

  • August 16, 2018 at 2:21 pm #200098
    Ariana Thompson
    Participant

    I found them by selecting only the 2020 catalog and searching for “man” or “woman” or “child”.

     

  • August 30, 2018 at 1:33 pm #201884
    Alan
    Participant

    Do the Catalogs auto update in the 2020 Cloud?  You have an article about People being added to the Decorative Catalog but they aren’t in mine?

  • August 30, 2018 at 5:05 pm #201954
    Neil Wilson
    Participant

    Hi Alan,

    The catalogs do update automatically and if you are in the North American market region (see your profile) you can find people in the 2020 decorative items catalog.  Search for Man, woman, or child.  (Thanks Ariana)

    Neil

  • September 21, 2018 at 1:05 pm #204865
    Ariana Thompson
    Participant

    Designer at Northern,

    This sort of thing?  I clip them off Google images and crop in plain old MS Paint.

    I can send you a cheat sheet if you like – let me know!~

    Ariana

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  • December 5, 2018 at 11:19 pm #219570

    Any chance of posting that cheat sheet for us please?

     

    Also, for the powers-that-be, can we add some more small appliances such as coffee machines to the cloud please AND please don’t forget the Thermomix units.

  • December 6, 2018 at 9:33 am #219610

    Hey Ariana –

    Thanks for the reply!  I actually do that for most of my tile – especially the mosaics, but the problem is when I want to do a floor – either I enter a single tile in from the User Catalog (which seems to be the only way I can find an image of the tile I want) which then won’t show any grout lines to indicate tile, or I have to use the Editable Floor Tile, which is a bit more modifiable, but neither way lets me do an offset pattern or anything.  Again, if they would just add an offset pattern for wall and one for floor (editable), then we can modify to match what we want.  I can’t imagine that would be too difficult…

    I’m just a tile junkie, and I like options I guess.

  • December 6, 2018 at 11:59 am #219634
    Ariana Thompson
    Participant

    Designer at Northern,

    you know, when you’re in the Render, if you choose Floor and go your User Texture Library, you can choose one of your offset subways and just change the scale to 24″ to make them big floor tiles (yes – I cheat!).

    Here are the Cheat Sheets for Cropping Tile for 2020.

    They may be a little TOO detailed for some people – but I created them with total novices in mind – hopefully there is something in them you will be able to use,

    I also have some for Wood Floors if you need.

    Let me know if anything in the sheets is unclear!

    Ariana

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  • December 6, 2018 at 12:24 pm #219657
    teresam
    Participant

    Hi Arianna,

    I would love a copy of your cheat sheets for hardwood. I have been trying to figure out how to get my floor image to show as a plank and not a tile with no luck. So frustrating! Also Decorative Catalog folks…. i have been looking for toilet paper holders and can’t seem to locate them. Are they under some name I haven’t thought of?

    Thanks!

    Teresa

     

  • December 6, 2018 at 1:20 pm #219679

    Those sheets are pretty handy, but as I said – I do this already.  One of my issues is that the mosaics are mixed medium in a lot of my designs, so I’ll take it a bit further and add the different colored tiles in different locations to make the repeat work – though this does have that repetitive look.  Not much I can do about that… at least the client gets an idea.

    I have better luck finding images of wood flooring that are more than just one piece, so that I just scale to size.

    Thanks for the feedback!

  • December 6, 2018 at 1:57 pm #219683
    Ariana Thompson
    Participant

    Hi Teresa,

    I’d be glad to put up my Wood Sheets.  No worries!

    By the way – at least here in Canada, the toilet Roll holders are in the 2020 Cloud under 2020Catalogue – Bathroom Items – Toilet Roll Holders.

    Ariana

  • December 6, 2018 at 3:22 pm #219688
    Ariana Thompson
    Participant

    Here you go Teresa,

    Again – these are maybe more detailed than many of us need – as they are targeted at novices.  And you might be using a more powerful editing program – these sheets assume just basic MS Paint that everyone has (if they have a PC).

    Let me know if anything is unclear.

    Normally I show people how to do this, and the cheat sheet is a reminder/refresher.

    Cheers!

    Ariana

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  • December 6, 2018 at 3:46 pm #219725
    Ariana Thompson
    Participant

    Here’s what the sample in the Cheat Sheets looks when applied – scaling to 4″wide per board

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  • December 6, 2018 at 4:20 pm #219735
    2020
    Keymaster

    Hi all,

    @mikel – We have a couple of larger espresso machines, but we’ll see if we can find some pod-coffee machines to include. The Thermomix is a bit more tricky. We don’t include branded products in the 2020 Decorative Items catalog, and there aren’t really any generic versions of this product (yet?).

    @teresam – we have a couple of toilet paper holders (search ‘toilet’ or ‘wc’) but we’ll add a few more. If you want a specific style, let us know on this page, where you can add a link to, and/or a pic of an example.

    We review all the submissions made through that page, and take all the suggestions into consideration when updating the catalog.

    Thanks!

    2020 Admin

  • December 6, 2018 at 6:33 pm #219740

    Hi 2020 Admin (whoever you are!),

    There are quite a few generic versions of the Thermomix out there now (capture attached) so it wouldn’t be hard to come up with something like the Thermomix but with enough differences to avoid legal issues however I’m sure you have other priorities for cloud items.

    For the moment, I’ll keep on importing the Sketchup models.

     

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  • December 6, 2018 at 6:38 pm #219750

    Hi Ariana,

    Thanks very much for posting the cheat sheets – I have passed them on to my Designers.

    Mike

     

  • December 7, 2018 at 3:20 pm #219813
    Ariana Thompson
    Participant

    Glad you could find them useful, Mike!

    😉

    Ariana

  • December 7, 2018 at 4:04 pm #219834
    2020
    Keymaster

    @mikel – Thanks for the information – we’ll take a look at those and see what we can do.

  • December 8, 2018 at 3:12 pm #219905
    Ariana Thompson
    Participant

    Perhaps the Powers-that-Be at “2020 Central” could add some wooden chopping boards that are upright and leaning against the wall?

    A square one, perhaps a couple of round ones with handles pointed a couple of different ways?  As well as cut flowers lying on the counter?

    When accessorizing my kitchens, I try and take inspiration from magazine glamour shots, and those are two recurring themes – an empty vase with a pairs of shears and flowers lying on the counter – as though the homeowner is in the midst of arranging a bouquet, and a “collection” of two or three wooden chopping boards leaning against the backsplash.

    Thanks!

    Ariana

  • December 9, 2018 at 6:03 pm #219912

    Excellent ideas Ariana. I’m going to see if Sketchup warehouse has such things.

  • December 9, 2018 at 8:43 pm #219913
    2020
    Keymaster

    I like your ideas @ariana-thompson606376  – if you have  some images of the items you like, let us know and we’ll add them.

    We’re having some issues with our tabbed pages right now, but if you go here and click the ‘Got a suggestion?’  box, a page will appear for you to submit images and links. We review user suggestions and update the Decorative Items catalog frequently, and we’d love to see your ideas so we can help you out.

    Thanks for your input!

    2020 Admin – a.k.a., Powers That Be 😉

  • December 11, 2018 at 10:37 am #220105
    Ariana Thompson
    Participant

    Thanks!  Will do!

    In fact I’ll put them up here as well – just to be safe~  😉

     

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  • December 13, 2018 at 8:02 pm #220447

    I too will post in both places. I am selling an ex-rental property and decided to have the completely empty and redecorated property ‘staged’ to make it look more appealing. I think we all can learn from the way these people decorate.

    One thing that jumps out at me about the cloud item list is that a lot of the items are kind of outdated (fondue sets!) and also that a lot of them would be better grouped so that we spend less time on arranging. I understand the need to have individual items for finer control but I would also like to see more groupings so that drag and drop decoration becomes much faster.

    Some examples of my ‘staged’ property are below and I’ve asked the company to provide me with more kitchen examples.

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  • December 28, 2018 at 2:03 pm #222035
    Ariana Thompson
    Participant

    Okay….so this is weird and awkward.

    People.

    I don’t know how other folks use the people in the Cloud, but I like to show them *interacting with the kitchen*.  Ignoring the Adults with Kids (because those people are interacting with the kid – so that’s its own thing)…

    The problem is, at least here in Canada, the women I have to choose from are:

    Woman who looks like she’s showing off a fridge on Wheel of Fortune

    Woman posing seductively with a large handbag

    Woman holding her coat like she’s about to leave

    Woman in skinny jeans with her arms out

    So I ALWAYS use Skinny-Jeans-Arms-Out Woman because I can put her in front of a fridge, and she’s getting something from the fridge. I put her in front of a peninsula or a cooker and she’s *doing* something.

    The Men are:

    Man with his hands in his pockets

    Man with one hand in his pocket

    Man talking on phone

    Man Doing Something on Tablet

    So….I never use any of the standing Men, because they are apparently too busy to do ANYTHING to help Skinny-Jeans Woman.  She’s on her own.

    Also – people of colour.  The only people of colour are *sitting* – so…. I can never really portray them as the homeowner – always the guest.  Usually the homeowner is standing and cooking/serving/etc and guests are sitting.

    In fact, the people of colour are the only seated figures who look like they are relaxed, enjoying themselves and happy to be there.  The other seated figures are doing something else (which makes them difficult to seat at a table/peninsula/island) or they look bored/prissy/ready to leave.

    So to be a Debby Downer – but the way *I* use people – I would just love to have some men and women of all colours (we have a lot of immigrants here – and they buy kitchens!!) reaching out in a generic way so they can be put in front of a fridge, a pantry pullout, they can be handing someone a glass of wine or bottle of water, and some seated people looking happy.

    And please get the bloody men off the phone! LOL

    Thanks for letting me rant!

    Ariana

  • December 28, 2018 at 3:44 pm #222059
    Ariana Thompson
    Participant

    For the record – I *did* try putting the body texture of one person onto another person to try and “mix things up” myself –

    If I ever need to know how to create a Borg – now I know.

  • January 3, 2019 at 9:30 am #222240

    OMG – that made me LOL!!  I think you’re my people, Ariana!  Just the fact that you know what  Borg is…  😉

  • January 3, 2019 at 6:08 pm #222333

    Ariana Thompson – resistance is futile. You WILL be assimilated!

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  • January 3, 2019 at 6:18 pm #222343
    Ariana Thompson
    Participant

    Bwahahahahaha!!!!

  • January 7, 2019 at 12:42 pm #222744
    2020
    Keymaster

    Hi Ariana,

    Thanks for the input on your use of the people. The models we have today represent an initial release to bring you a variety of options. We planned to add more people and diversify the selection too, so stay tuned. It’s been a challenge to get suitable models in useful poses, so it’s good to hear about how you use them.

    Will try to get some more helpful, disconnected guys as well haha!

    Cheers,

    2020 Admin

  • January 8, 2019 at 10:08 am #222783
    Ariana Thompson
    Participant

    Cheers Keymaster!

    No need to add Borg, though! I can make those – LOL.

    Very excited that more poses and variety are on the horizon!  2020 does just keep getting better all the time – and I think it’s because you folks are so open to feedback!

     

  • January 8, 2019 at 10:15 am #222785
    2020
    Keymaster

    No problem!

    Thanks for the kind words – we can’t do everything, but we do try. Just glad we don’t have to think about how to categorise Borg…

     

    2020 Admin

  • January 8, 2019 at 6:12 pm #222949

    Hi Keymaster,

    Please add some people in wheelchairs as we occasionally have to design for this.

    Cheers

  • January 8, 2019 at 6:15 pm #222950
    2020
    Keymaster

    Already on the list Mike!

  • January 9, 2019 at 1:55 pm #223111
    Ariana Thompson
    Participant

    Does the Cloud have any “draped” blankets or towels?

    Something that’s pooled a little, but has a portion draping down?

    Or one that’s hanging as though from a peg?

    If not, I’d love to have something like that for adding a touch of colour and casual-ness.

    Something I could put on a bench, like it was a throw – or hanging from the corner of a chairback, as though someone had left their scarf or shawl casually.

    If there isn’t one that’s simply eluding me – I’ll add that as a suggestion!

     

    Ariana

  • January 10, 2019 at 4:47 pm #223385

    Ok – here’s one that I’ve run into about 6 times in the past couple of months… I need a MODERN fireplace!  We use a lot of the Dimplex-style electric models down here (since nobody has gas in Florida!), but something with a small edge profile that can be altered to match specs (see attached)?  And maybe one model with glass beads, and one with the sticks for some variety.

    I’m also doing a ton of outdoor kitchens lately, and the grills on the Cloud never match what I need.  Any chance of making an editable grill as well?

    Thanks!

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  • January 10, 2019 at 10:13 pm #223396
    Travis Davies
    Participant

    Amen!!! How about just better or faster layout templates for those who don’t use high def color for builders. Bring back lined drawings with smooth edges like we had in V9!!!!! A way to print to pdf without having to mess with settings non stop to actually print correctly.

    Finally, how about a simple favorites menu for notes, items and appliances we use on every drawing without having to open a file several layers deep

  • January 11, 2019 at 10:32 am #223441
    Ariana Thompson
    Participant

    Yes – I always end up making fireplaces out of the “Scenery” wall!

    LOL!  Good one~!

    Ariana

  • January 11, 2019 at 12:01 pm #223481
    2020
    Keymaster

    @ Ariana, we don’t have anything draped or hung by a peg. The options are vast for this (primary item, shape of the underlying item, etc.) but if you submit a couple of examples through the form, we can take a look.

    @ Designer at Northern, we have a couple of modern fireplaces but not quite like those you describe. Please post a couple of examples on our suggestion form and we’ll see what we can do.

    @ Travis Davies, I can tell you we’re already looking at mechanisms to bring favourites capabilities to the product, but I can’t help you here with your other queries. Perhaps a call to Support would help clarify issues with printing and line display though?

    Suggestion form form is here(click “Got a Suggestion?” to get started)

    Cheers,

    2020 Admin

  • January 12, 2019 at 5:16 pm #223571
    Travis Davies
    Participant

    I’ve already spoken to several people in tech support about it. I think until the team over development addresses the issue, it will continue to frustrate anyone just trying to make something work and look halfway decent in B&W. If version 9 could do it then why not V11?

  • January 14, 2019 at 10:12 am #223588
    Neil Wilson
    Participant

    Hi Travis,

    The changes to the renderings from version 9 versus version 11 are because we changed from the Lightworks rendering engine to the Redway rendering engine.

    I have found that if I do a HD render of the hidden line image the line clarity noticeably improves.

    Neil

  • January 14, 2019 at 10:43 pm #223731
    Travis Davies
    Participant

    Thanks Neil, I’ll have to try that. I try not to get frustrated but when my builders ask why they look so bad, and that’s after trying to make them look good.

    Maybe it’s just me, but it seems like something that would be so easy to fix. We have to print these off for installers and kind of hard to show details in a blury image.

    I wonder if I could use V9 for renderings and v11 for everything else….yes, sounds crazy!

  • January 28, 2019 at 10:58 am #225096
    Danny Steiger
    Participant

    Forgive me if this is a duplicate – I started to read through all the responses, but there were quite a few!

    I love the catalog, but I wish there was an option to download local copies of frequently used items.  I realize these would have to be checked for updates potentially, but that would greatly speed up designing.  I find even with a great internet connection it is extremely sluggish, and sometimes difficult to find the exact items I am searching for.

  • January 28, 2019 at 11:22 am #225179
    2020
    Keymaster

    Hi Danny,

    Great to hear you like the catalog! We are in the process of reducing our file sizes to greatly speed up the download process. We have already done a few hundred of the largest items in the 2020 Decorative Items catalog, and will continue to optimize the files.

    We have a plan to introduce a ‘favourites’ concept in a coming version, but in the meantime it is possible today to save your preferred items to a design and then copy/paste them into another design.

    We’ve also been working on the descriptions of decorative items which should make items easier to find with the Text Filter, and the Grid View makes it easy to visually scan through the results.

    Cheers,

    2020 Admin

  • March 20, 2019 at 8:20 pm #230270
    Danny Steiger
    Participant

    I second that – casing options for windows and doors is CRITICAL.

    So much progress was made with the windows wizard, I can’t believe a casing option hasn’t been added yet.  This is one of my biggest items.

  • March 21, 2019 at 10:24 am #230334
    Ariana Thompson
    Participant

    I agree Danny – drywall returns on windows is very popular here – and “backsplash” windows that go right from the countertop (often with the countertop extending into the windowsill) up to the upper cabinets are gaining a following as the city’s population density increases and folks are wanting light without looking at their neighbours.

    I’ve had to get creative with pushing windows out of the wall until they are barely touching to kinda give the illusion  of a drywall return – or using a interior wall cut-out as a window – then having to create a pane of glass and a background for it.

    Frustrating!

    Ariana

  • March 21, 2019 at 10:29 am #230345
    2020
    Keymaster

    Hi Danny & Ariana,

    If you want to discuss this further, I’d recommend starting a new thread – these items wouldn’t appear in a decorative catalog. You may get more relevant feedback in a separate topic.

    Best

    2020 Admin 

  • April 2, 2019 at 6:53 pm #231818
    Alan ryner
    Participant

    Guys

    We are in Australia and have to use the cloud from the UK and its so problematic, SLOW does not have any of the items every one refers to in the discussion. We use design and cloud from the UK focuses Fusion. So a lot of the new catalogues are no accessible to design. Its such a struggle to put in appliances into the drawings the way the libraries work. Can someone who looks after the cloud out of the UK please think about matching all that’s available in the US as far as decorative items etc.

    Alan

  • April 24, 2019 at 11:36 am #235607
    Ariana Thompson
    Participant

    I would love some generic appliances – especially fridges – in the cloud that can be *fully* modified.

    Not just gross measurements and colour but importantly:

    -door swing  (this is HUGE) most fridges in the Cloud ONLY have right hand swing

    -ratio of fridge to freezer

    -two or three handle options, including no handle (eg: bar, flat bow, recessed)

    -ability to change colour of handle separately from rest of fridge

    The most common mod I make to the old clunky 2020 fridge (besides making it entirely white) is making the upper door MUCH longer, thereby shrinking the lower door and giving it the more modern “freezer on the bottom” look. Being able to manipulate the ratios of the unit is really key for the way I use it.

    These mods will enable a user to “create” basically any fridge.

     

    Cheers!

    Ariana

  • May 1, 2019 at 4:19 am #236042
    Shaun O’Hare
    2020 Expert

    Hi Ariana,

    Many thanks for your suggestion.

    As part of our next phase of Content in Cloud, we will be delivering a solution which will be accompanied by a selection of generic (fully configurable) catalogs, including one for appliances.

    Please watch this space for further information.

    Thanks

    Shaun

  • June 23, 2019 at 4:57 pm #241498
    Travis Davies
    Participant

    So any of these suggestions going to be released with V12??? Rendering engine needs to be #1 IMO. The current one is way underpowered and can’t even do a black and white/hidden lines rendering very well. For builders we don’t need high def images. A simple-clean printed pdf file please!

  • July 3, 2019 at 4:37 pm #242224
    Husam M
    Participant

    Hello guys .. how are you ? My name is Husam and I’m a new user to 2020 design .. I’ve using it for the past couple of days .. I’m actually wondering from which catalog I can find these items on the attached picture .. there are too many items on each catalog and its crazy to go in detail for each and everyone .. I would like find this a similar hood (especially this carved <span style=”color: #000000; font-family: ‘Open Sans’, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, Heiti; font-size: 14px;”>Wood Appliques </span> placed on the middle of the hood ) + a similar base cabinet that have  the cook top ..

     

    Thank you.

    Sam

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  • July 11, 2019 at 7:57 pm #243324
    Ariana Thompson
    Participant

    Hi Gang,

    Am I the only one who finds the delicate white light fixtures on white backgrounds really hard to see in the thumbnail?  Is it my monitor?

    If it isn’t my monitor, then perhaps my suggestion would be coloured fixtures, or a gradient background instead of pure white?

    Cheers,

    Ariana

     

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  • August 1, 2019 at 1:09 pm #244499
    Willesa
    Participant

    Need updated coat racks

  • August 6, 2019 at 10:16 am #244690
    Peter Karttunen
    Participant

    As none of the decorative items are available except in the 2020 cloud any longer, desperate for them to be dimension adjustable as this was frequently done in the past to tweak designs.

    Transferring to the cloud without this feature as a beta project without leaving an option for use within the program has severely limited flexibility for sizing items such as televisions, mirrors, etc.

    While the elevation view and attributes will seem to have updated your changes, any rendered view will still show the original size and composition of the item.

     

  • August 6, 2019 at 2:43 pm #244808
    Ariana Thompson
    Participant

    Hi Peter!  The “brand name” items – like fridges and ranges – can’t have their dims changed, as they are true to their real-life products, most other items dims do change successfully.

    I found the trick is, after you have changed dims (this goes for textures/colours too) you have to copy/paste the item and delete the original.  The COPY will have all the changes.

    Some items in the Cloud DO have locked dims – especially if they are curvy.  They also sometimes have textures that can be changed to anything EXCEPT “None” which is really annoying – because I often find some of the food vignettes a little busy – and I prefer to erase the napkins etc.

     

    Hope that helps!

    Ariana

     

  • August 9, 2019 at 3:02 pm #245561
    Erik Tornquist
    Participant

    Holy crap, you’re absolutely right! I could barely make out many of these lights

     

  • August 9, 2019 at 3:09 pm #245573
    Erik Tornquist
    Participant

    Man this website is annoying. Lets try it again.

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  • August 9, 2019 at 3:21 pm #245583
    Erik Tornquist
    Participant

    We also need more flushmount lights. The ones that are there aren’t really flush mount and “shrinking” the height also flattens the glass bulb instead of just the stems.

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