WishList

    • March 30, 2015 at 9:29 am #25698
      2020
      Participant

      We are always looking for customer feedback on new releases and future releases, in an effort to provide meaningful improvements to 2020 Design.
      Please post here your ideas and suggestions you want to have in 2020 Design. We will use your posts to form our future Product Roadmap.

    • March 30, 2015 at 1:38 pm #25717

      Wishlist: It would be great to be able to have V10 and V11 installed on the same machine for support and testing purposes.

      • November 10, 2019 at 10:18 am #259168
        Ron Russell
        Participant

        Was there an article on sharing a Virtual Reality of designs? Is this part of version 12?

      • March 18, 2020 at 4:34 pm #274625
        Jim Knowles
        Participant

        First – I rather like the 2020 V12 edition. However, I have found myself spending a massive amount of unnecessary time accomplishing relatively simple tasks that I’ve been able to do fairly easily in other more rudimentary kitchen design software programs. Some of the limitations are a bit astounding and very frustrating.

        1. Moldings on walls which are different heights on two ends. For example, cannot show crown molding on a wall which is 120″ on left side, and 96″ on the other side. Crown and other moldings will only appear in a straight line at one up/down value above the floor.

        2. Ability to edit trim, general shapes and lines in the elevation view. Can currently create a running line in an elevation, but cannot make it 3D, as would be expected for #1.

        3. Calculations within a dimensions field – for a length (or width, or height, or depth, or up/down, in/out value) being able to type ” 36+25.5+3″ in the field and it calculate/populate the box with 64.5. This is possible and quite handy in Photoshop, InDesign, etc.

        4. Please fix crashes while making changes while rendering window is open. Modifying or editing trims, countertops, walls, particularly the L/W/H/D of these items causes unexpected crashes.

        5. Ability to select which walls will appear in a floorplan view when creating document layout, or ability to turn specific walls on or off (like other items) in the various floorplan display tabs. Case here is when laying out a kitchen and then trying to add walls around it for perspective/flooring/windows/etc. to make it look real. Those walls and added items are not needed for creating dimensioned floor plan documents.

        6. Ability to select individual items to turn on or off in the rendering view.

        7. Ability to save lighting presets, and low/medium/high render quality. Lighting presets in all of the rendering views appear unnaturally dark. Cannot save or re-load an “exposure” value, or type a specific decimal number in this field. Cannot save presets for ambient light levels, auto lighting, etc. Cannot adjust height or general placement/frequency of auto lighting. Without spending hours to create manual lighting/light sources, it is virtually impossible to have upper cabinets, which have auto lighting, show up in the same color family as base cabinets, without hours of work.

        8. Ability to set contrast settings (white point, black point, shadows highlight/lowlight) in the rendering view. All white colors look unnecessarily dim and essentially a dark gray from the start. Under “auto” lighting, a bright white should appear as a bright white in a commonly lit room. The starting point in the rendering feels like a dark room in the back of a night club. Colors selected in any of the texture items for attributes appear 10+ shades darker in the rendering, but even with exposure and standard tweaking (before hours of adding custom lighting sources), items are either “flashed” out, very dark, or the color family is changed based on the lighting color temperature. It does not need to be that difficult.

        9. When will export to .dxf and .dwg be added for 64bit version? Cannot modify / create fully custom cabinets or anything else for that matter if the import/export does not work.

        10. Countertop wizard. Ability to add a custom overhang to a cabinet or edge, in the same way that appliance or finished edges are added. Ability to create custom-shaped tops using the same catalogs available in the countertop wizard. Difficult to create an oddly-shaped top with complex radiuses, etc. but very easy to do if you make one from scratch. Except that the countertop catalogs and textures are not available.

        • March 27, 2020 at 2:33 pm #275537
          Ron Russell
          Participant

          Jim,
          1) Use insert/trim vs. countertops and trims. In plan or elevation click on the cabinet or group of cabinets on the same level.

      • March 18, 2020 at 4:51 pm #274637
        Jim Knowles
        Participant

        Crown Molding on walls with different heights. See the picture. Crown & base moldings are a huge part of our more upscale designs. Cannot show this customer what their new kitchen will look like against their 8″ crown molding at the ceiling.

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      • January 12, 2021 at 1:05 pm #313278
        Kelly Smith
        Participant

        I would love tools that make it easy to create NKBA standard drawings, including layouts that function with 11×17 paper, the ability to create your own title block, proper centerline dimensions & etc (study the guidelines and make it easy). You guys are supposed to be the best. You are fine for pricing & rendering, but not for install drawings.  I have purchased another software (CA) for my install drawings in NKBA standards as 2020 doesn’t make it easy. We are WAY more efficient with it – even having to input the design twice!!! Many of my manufacturers have 3rd party pricing software that I am forced to use anyway. What will be the point of 2020 if I have to price there and do my NKBA install drawings in another program? You guys need to catch up.  You have been doing good for years, but you have new GOOD competition. Don’t rest on your laurels.

        • January 12, 2021 at 2:45 pm #313298
          Jennifer Stewart
          Participant

          I 100% agree Kelly.  2020 needs to catch up in the standard drawing area.  I find it very annoying how the dimensions are so messy.  I will add my own only to have those deleted.  Multiple lines of the same dimension, dimensions on top of dimensions.  Very messy and time consuming.  Labels should not be on top of each other and having the ability to align them all at once would be nice.  One at a time to move dimensions and labels takes way to long.

          What program did you purchase?  I might check it out for now.

           

          Thanks!!

        • July 9, 2021 at 8:03 pm #338702
          Olcay Akkaya
          Participant

          I agree 100%. I would also like to see decorative items such as plumbing fixtures etc. to be detailed on the elevation, instead of just getting a square or rectangle shape to represent the item. It would be nice to have common and up to date size editable plumbing fixtures, light fixtures, furniture etc. The items in the cloud we can use are  nowhere near what the current design trends are.

      • February 10, 2021 at 9:09 am #316157
        Dan Greve
        Participant

        New user here -if there’s a way to do this – would love to hear it…

        But, is there any chance of uncoupling an Items label background color from the Item?  It would be nice to have transparent backgrounds on labels.

        Thanks!

        • February 10, 2021 at 11:36 am #316209
          Kristopher Papaleo
          Participant

          Hi Dan,

          Unfortunately there is no way of changing the background color on the label of an item. The labels background will remain the same color you apply as the items color.

          Regards,

          Kris

      • September 16, 2022 at 2:06 pm #375433
        Doug Anderson
        Participant

        I would really like to see added workbooks for a single project. I imagine it working a bit like excel, separate tabs at the bottom, used to create different spaces in the home while simultaneously allowing you to select the catalog style for that area. I would like to be able to name the different areas, so when I print elevations or layouts the name of the space will show below.

        Printing overall is a nightmare. Sometimes whatever I’m printing is scaled way too small. I use the scaling tool to make it larger and then it runs off the page and there is no way to force it the direction i want it to go. Once you’re in preview you can’t choose, fit to page, or any other standard tool used for printing. I am frustrated daily because of this.

        I’d also like to see the drawing layout have an option for landscape layout.

        • September 16, 2022 at 3:05 pm #375434
          Kristopher Papaleo
          Participant

          Hi Doug,

          Just to clarify, there is a way to move the drawing when in print preview. When you have the print preview open, click and hold on both the left and right clickers and your mouse will turn into a fist. When you see the fist, you can then move the image anywhere on the print page.

          Also, you can print the drawing layout in landscape and portrait. When you have the drawing layout in front of you, click on File > Print > Page Setup .. From there you will be able to change the orientation of the page from portrait to landscape.

          Hope this helps.

          Kris

    • April 1, 2015 at 1:43 am #25829

      The ability to store custom textures for use with other designs
      The ability to save the custom textures to share with other 20-20 Design users
      A wizard to allow the setting of cabinets heights and styles on starting a new drawing

      A fix for the damn wall issues that have plagued me since I started using 6.4

      Example of what I mean is here:

      http://www.ipprofessional.com.au/files/Example%20Wall%20Issue.jpg

      I hate it when we get these odd bevels and joins in the wall instead of a simple butt joint.

      • November 10, 2019 at 3:42 pm #259170
        Ron Russell
        Participant

        found it! It’s in the perspective window, under file.

      • November 11, 2019 at 11:04 am #259174
        Santiago Morales
        2020 Expert

        Hello Ron,

        I am not aware of such article and there is no additional work done on V12 related to VR unfortunately.

        Today we can share the links to the created 360 Panos. What type of additional sharing are you looking for?

        Thank you,

        Santiago

        • December 2, 2019 at 9:49 am #260991
          Ron Russell
          Participant

          I found the 360 pano under file of the perspective window. I cant get past the rendering, it completes, but what is next for me to do? Is there a video showing the entire process step by step?

        • December 2, 2019 at 10:14 am #261001
          Ron Russell
          Participant

          patience, still have questions.
          https://panorama.2020.net/view/xp8ppub6fko4lfpa9rxgpq/
          Sometimes the ceiling shows correct, sometimes not.
          see attachments.
          The L shape wall group is not attached to the ceiling.

          Attachments:
      • January 13, 2021 at 3:57 pm #313377
        Kelly Smith
        Participant

        Chief Architet

      • September 16, 2022 at 3:18 pm #375435
        Doug Anderson
        Participant

        GAME CHANGER!! Thank you, thank you, thank you.

    • April 1, 2015 at 1:53 am #25830

      Newer oven, steam, combi oven, cooktop shapes in the COMMON file so that Catalogue Tools users can improve the appearance of their catalogues.

      Custom door/drawer design tool (can charge for this as an additional tool)

      DXF/SKP importer for Catalogue Tools to enable us to bring in additional shapes

      Splashback Designer that allows placing of holes and cutours with output to DXF (can charge for this as an additional tool)

      Benchtop Designer that allows placing of holes, overmount and undermount cutouts with output to DXF (can charge for this as an additional tool)

      I work with several manufacturers that have their own CNC equipment for stone and glass cutting (including CNC waterjets) and the ability to have a suitably formatted DXF file with different types of cutouts on different layers would allow us to manufacture directly from the 20-20 Design drawings.

      These manufacturers are happy to spend money on additional software tools to do the above. You are almost there (I have exported DXF benchtops and splashbacks but they do not have enough info or shape control) so a little more work would see this available.

      • November 10, 2019 at 10:04 am #259166
        Ron Russell
        Participant

        !st let me say, it’s a pain using 2 programs to do this. You can draw the room in Sketch Up and import it. Then use construction lines for placement and elevations.

        • November 11, 2019 at 11:21 am #259177
          Santiago Morales
          2020 Expert

          Hello Ron,

          Thanks for the feedback. Can you clarify why you need 2 different programs? Why do you need to draw a room in Sketchup? This can be done in 2020 Design. Are there missing functionalities in 2020 Design that forces you to use Sketchup?

          Thank you,

          Santiago

        • December 2, 2019 at 9:06 pm #261169
          Ron Russell
          Participant

          here’s a snap shot

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    • May 3, 2015 at 3:23 pm #27395

      Wishlist: It would be handy in Attributes if the Add-on tab displayed all of the add-ons and simply greyed out those that were not available.  (So Add-on Excludes would be visible, but not selectable)

      • November 10, 2019 at 10:13 am #259167
        Ron Russell
        Participant

        !st let me say, it’s a pain using 2 programs to do this. To avoid odd bevels and joins in the wall, you can draw the room in Sketch Up and import it. Then use construction lines for placement and elevations.

        • November 11, 2019 at 11:26 am #259179
          Santiago Morales
          2020 Expert

          Hello Ron,

          Can you be more clear as to what you mean by “odd bevels and joins”? If you have a snapshot this would help also.

          Thank you,

          Santiago

      • November 11, 2019 at 11:24 am #259178
        Santiago Morales
        2020 Expert

        Hello Kevin, thank you for the feedback. We are taking note. We are also improving our Cloud Solution and we feed the selection of Add-ons will be a lot more intuitive.

        Thank you,

        Santiago

        • November 16, 2019 at 10:27 am #259774
          Ron Russell
          Participant

          Someone else mentioned this, I have had the same issues in the past. When you add a wall you get a triangle void at the intersection of three walls. Try it on a 270 corner, trying adding a 40″ pony wall. The only way I have found to avoid it is placing pony wall without snapping and leaving a small gap.

    • May 7, 2015 at 10:29 am #27665

      It’s great being able to have multiple items selected and be able to view shared Attributes.  It would also be handy if we could change the Display Setting of multiple items too!

    • May 11, 2015 at 1:15 pm #27741
      Michael Farago
      Pilot Pro

      Would it be possible to have the drawing layout function be adjusted to have the stability that it had in V9.  Both V10 and V11 seem to have lost all stability with that aspect of the program.

    • May 13, 2015 at 10:59 am #27798
      L A Cabinets
      Participant

      So the hidden line rendering times are slightly better but it wastes a lot of time waiting on it.  I downloaded V11 in hopes that it would be greatly improved.  Keep working on it please.

    • May 20, 2015 at 3:49 pm #27892
      Robert LeBeau
      Pilot Pro

      One thing id like to see is have the capability to add notes to individual cabinets from the attribute light window. alot of times when im designing and engineering something might pop into my head as im working on something  that i need to remember or modify on a cabinet and instead of having to go in to the attributes and then go to notes and write it out…if u could jus click on the item (attributes lite is already open ) and type away it would save time and also not mess up the flow ur in..tbh i think the attributes lite window has alot of time saving potential in general that people have yet to even start to trying to exploit..

    • June 4, 2015 at 12:47 am #30907

      Something I have been asked about by a number of cabbies is the provision of an accurate cutlist WITH edging information even if this was via a 3rd partysoftware company.

      There are many small cabbies (200 within a 50 mile radius of me!) who still use Cutlists or have just one (cheap) CNC such as a Multicam so a simple, relatively inexpensive Cutlist and GCode option would increase your sales dramatically. I am still waiting for costs but I suspect the Insight route is just too expensive for smaller manufacturers especially considering that you can buy a competing package that goes from Design to Nested GCode from $3,000 to $10,000.

    • July 8, 2015 at 5:27 pm #38524
      Lori
      Participant

      I UNDERSTAND THAT 2020 WAS WRITTEN WITH ONE DESIGNER WORKING ON ONE COMPUTER – BUT CAN YOU MAKE CHANGES FOR THOSE WHO PUT OUR DESIGNS ON THE SERVER SO MANY PEOPLE CAN USE?  1st PROBLEM is working on a design on different computer than it was created causes crashes.   2nd PROBLEM is when one designer has the design open, there is no way to prevent another designer from opening the same design, making changes, and then saving them over the other’s changes.  We have one person who does the renderings for all of the designers in our store and this can be a huge problem. 3rd PROBLEM is that the ‘automatic save every 5 minutes’ does NOT work!  We have crashed many, many times and what we’ve been designing has NEVER been restored to a saved point that was created by ‘automatic save’.

    • July 8, 2015 at 5:30 pm #38525
      Lori
      Participant

      When changing materials on cabinets, the formula that is supposed to change all of the moldings and other finishes once you put what you want in the first one or two spots never works! It is a hassle to have to change each one, one at a time.
      When changing materials on cabinets, the finish color is supposed to show in the “preview” rectangle, and it turns black instead.
      Instead of adding the finish selection in ‘Styles and Pricing’, I have to use Global Attributes and change the catalogs from there because I have found finishes that more accurately represent the desired finish on my own than 2020 or the Koch catalog designer has picked.  I wish we could put the “V29135” (Birch Nutmeg) finish (just as an example) in there instead of Koch’s V50135 (Also Birch Nutmeg) – but the 2020 one is better.

    • July 8, 2015 at 5:32 pm #38528
      Lori
      Participant

      When the light comes in a window and shines on the cabinets right next to it, it makes the cabinets all spotty.  I turn the light off each window, add a background, and even add blinds and it is still too spotty. Even when I render on Texture; high quality.
      Metals: Also the stainless steel option for appliances is very spotty when rendered.  So are most of the metals. Can this be fixed?

    • July 8, 2015 at 5:35 pm #38531
      Lori
      Participant

      <span style=”font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: ‘Calibri’,sans-serif; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: ‘Times New Roman’; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;”>Why can’t I do a finished ‘refreshed rendering’ of a picture in texture with edges mode? I used to use this in V9 to show raised panel details.  If the raised panels showed with Texture/Color, that would be awesome!  I wouldn’t have to use this feature if the detail of the panel on a raised panel would show up.  (It comes in fuzzy, dark and even black – on wainscot panels, too.) It must be 2020 glitch as it happens for Koch catalog AND the Dura catalog that we use. </span>

      • October 31, 2015 at 9:20 am #56576
        Anonymous
        Inactive

        Lori,
        I have found a workaround that I have been using to tone down that light coming through the windows. I go into the window attributes, change the glass to charcoal, then lower the ambient lighting to reduce the overall light coming through the window. You will need to add recessed lighting to light your design and I also use up-lighting to even out the ceiling light.

    • July 8, 2015 at 5:36 pm #38532
      Lori
      Participant

      How can I change the ‘SCENE’ lighting to adjust for wall cabinets of different depths?  They are set pretty good for 12” deep wall cabinets, but when they are turned on and I have a deeper cab, like a 24” deep hood – the lights wash it out! 

    • July 8, 2015 at 5:37 pm #38534
      Lori
      Participant

      2020 Flaw: 2020 does NOT add a finish on the ends automatically when we ‘add’ them on in ‘add ons’ to our cabinets.  We have to go in and add color to the ends that are supposed to be finished.

    • July 8, 2015 at 5:38 pm #38537
      Lori
      Participant

      Sometimes items disappear.  For instance, when I move a cabinet out of the way using the Placement tool, it will move over. But when I move it back, sometimes it disappears instead.  Sometimes I have to move an island out of the layout so I can get a better rendering of a cabinet wall, so I just move it out 200”, then move it back when I am done instead of deleting it and risk the chance of forgetting to put the island back in.  What could cause it to disappear?

    • July 8, 2015 at 5:42 pm #38538
      Lori
      Participant

      I’m not sure if this is a 2020 problem or a catalog problem, but when I choose a 30/70 door and want the top section to have glass, it won’t show it. I go into ‘Add ons’, and check “China Door-Prep for Upper W Glass” and it won’t remove the panel. If I check “Door-Prep for Wall Glass, it removes both panels so I can’t get it to show correctly for the customer.

    • July 8, 2015 at 5:45 pm #38539
      Lori
      Participant

      Whenever we increase the height of a Wall or Tall Pantry Cabinet, the cabinet increases, but the panel stays the same, leaving a gap between the panel and the middle rail. (For instance – changing a 48″ cab to 54″ tall).

    • July 8, 2015 at 6:03 pm #38541
      Lori
      Participant

      Whenever we add a fluted filler to a design, it renders all shiny and spotty, like a metal finish. Can this be fixed?

    • July 25, 2015 at 12:48 pm #39688
      Mark A Yost, Sr.
      Participant

      Elevations that are standard to the industry, and by that, I mean specifically crown molding and light rails that show up as a correct shape, with returns back to wall, not just a line.

    • August 6, 2015 at 2:33 pm #40584

      When using Catalog Manager and clicking on Delete, I would like to be able to select multiple catalogs at once and delete them.  (Plus it would be helpful to SHIP a catalog from V10)

    • August 6, 2015 at 11:20 pm #40630
      2020
      Participant

      Hi Kevin,

      Thank you for the suggestion.
      I like this idea and I will add it to the consideration list for next Service pack.

    • August 6, 2015 at 11:27 pm #40632
      2020
      Participant

      Hi Mike,

      The texture feature is something that we are already working on it.
      I like the Idea if Default setting for the next design (Cabinets heights, Door Styles, Floor and Ceiling textures, etc.)
      Also I have reported the wall Issue.

    • August 6, 2015 at 11:32 pm #40635
      2020
      Participant

      Hi Kevin,
      The Add-on are catalogs driven.
      I will make this suggestion to the catalog creation team

    • August 6, 2015 at 11:40 pm #40638
      2020
      Participant

      Hi Lori,

      I see that some of your issues are catalog issues and other are 2020 Design Related
      I will validate them and add them to the candidate list for a future release.

    • August 28, 2015 at 4:00 pm #46078
      Jessica Von bargen
      Participant

      I would love to see render times shortened. Having the 3D perspective take more than 15 minutes to render is crazy.

    • September 10, 2015 at 7:32 pm #48491
      Jeremy Leisure
      Pilot Pro

      Jessica Render in a smaller window cuts it down a quite a few minutes.

    • September 10, 2015 at 7:38 pm #48492
      Jeremy Leisure
      Pilot Pro

      I would like to be able to lock the walls down. It gets ridiculous when you grab a wall and it moves everything and then will not “CTRL Z” back.   A lock mode would enable you to stretch move and do whatever you want without having the effect it currently does when trying to move walls. The way that is suggested to manipulate walls seems limited. Just a thought

       

       

       

    • September 15, 2015 at 1:56 pm #50361
      Jeremy Leisure
      Pilot Pro

      Maybe I  don’t know how to do this correctly but it would be nice to have a beam that you could set the height on so you can do vaulted looks in different directions. IE  follow  the vault lines on multiple walls.

    • September 15, 2015 at 4:52 pm #50371
      Diane A
      Pilot Pro

      It would be nice if we had the ability to make openings in various shapes to floors, ceilings and counter tops.

       

    • October 7, 2015 at 2:17 pm #52483
      Diane A
      Pilot Pro

      What would really be nice is if we could have different tile pattern options for the editable floor and wall tiles, ex. Brick layered, Herringbone, Windmill, Hexagon etc.

    • October 7, 2015 at 10:20 pm #52535

      The REPLACE function in Design is certainly handy to be able to swap out one cabinet for a completely different cabinet.  However it can also be dangerous as the Add-ons from the ‘old’ cabinet carry over to the new cabinet regardless of the add-on relation.  For example, If you have a 3DB18 and add a cutlery tray, then use the Replace function to switch the cabinet into BFD15 the cutlery tray stays even though there is no drawer.

      We recently had an issue where a cabinet with an implicit add-on was ‘replaced’ with another cabinet with the same implicit add-on.  The end result was 2 Lazy Susans ordered for one cabinet (and we couldn’t deleted it).

      I would love to see it where if there was an add-on present, the Replace function would pop-up a window allowing the user to confirm and cancel any add-ons.

    • October 19, 2015 at 1:43 pm #54718
      Kevin Lima
      Pilot Pro

      I’d like to be able to get more out of application integration.  It would be useful to be able to export the ‘Section Name’ variable.

      Thanks,

      Kevin

    • October 22, 2015 at 12:47 pm #55419
      Jordyn P
      Pilot Pro

      It would be great to have the ROOM catalogs updated. There are often door/window items that I can’t recreate, such as a 3 door patio slider or a double entry door with one side lite to name a couple, and I tend to need these more and more as time goes on.

      It would also be nice to be able to edit all available ROOM catalog items in any way, to give more customization. For instance, I might have a 59″ space for an alcove tub, but since I have no way to edit bath.alc.60, I have to find a different alternative, which is usually less attractive in the rendering.

      Is there any possibility of being able to incorporate multiple levels without increasing the height of all of the walls and using the up/down feature to set items in place?

      Finally, I’d love to see more options for the stairs. Maybe adding a feature that would allow you to choose how high up the railings go on the stairs, adding more railing post options, diagonal handrails that we can add to the walls, etc.

    • November 25, 2015 at 2:01 pm #62641
      Michael Farago
      Pilot Pro

      I would love to see a some of the core functionality optimized.   We have 50+ users that use the drawing layout function and in V11, the named views are not functioning.  We’re losing drawings and a lot of time trying to band-aid the problems.

      Also if you turn off a placement zone, can the overall dimensions stay turned on when you have the overall dimensions turned on with the auto dimensions?

      Finally, in 11.3 i can’t properly close a running line.  Can you add an auto close feature to running lines?  Such as I’ve drawn 9 sides of a 10 sided polygon, and if I select the close line feature it would connect my last point with my first point and end the drawing function?

    • November 25, 2015 at 4:11 pm #62646
      Jeremy Leisure
      Pilot Pro

      It would be GREAT!!! if we had more CAD functions as to make the paper space look more Professional.  Having the option to show door swings on doors as well as cabinets with dotted lines that you can change the color on would be fine. Having “CL” icon for center line not be so touchy and actually stay where you want to put it would be nice. The wall ID on the floor plan shows through on the renders as well. I would also like it you could print the whole paper space as one file and not have to print each file to PDF then put into one PDF. If there is a way to do this , Please let me know.  I would also love to see a “lock walls” option so if you move one wall it doesn’t move all the walls. I know you can go into an individual wall and modify wall but it sometimes still doesn’t do it. If you could also make it so when you make a “Poly line ” into a 3D object like a beam you could edit in an elevation view allowing the beam to follow the vault you created. These are just a few things that would help. Love the program besides the constant freezing….

    • December 9, 2015 at 3:10 pm #64196
      Lori
      Participant

      Thanks, Chuck, for your help! I am not sure where you are changing the ambient light, maybe in rendering? I usually turn the light totally off in the Window’s light properties. I still have to play with each layout separately, noting their number of windows, walls, etc. that change the lighting.

    • December 9, 2015 at 3:13 pm #64199
      Lori
      Participant

      It would improve our final renderings of our customer’s designs if 2020 had lighting catalogs so we could add up to date, better lighting in our designs. The selection in the Room Catalogs is pretty bad.  Until they offer light catalogs – does anyone else have an idea of what I could use? Thanks!

    • December 9, 2015 at 3:38 pm #64202
      Lori
      Participant

      Jordyn, I agree with your suggestions and hope 2020 is listening! All of the Room Catalogs need updating with more current items offered. They also need to give us more freedom to edit or recreate items our customers want. PLEASE update the stairs, post & corbel options; flooring; countertops; backsplashes; bath fixtures; faucets; decoration items for kitchen and baths and add great lighting options or offer a catalog to install from a lighting company. If someone on 2020 could spend the time to create 10 really cool cars and garage equipment (which are items we seldom use), then why can’t they make cool coffee pots, small appliances, soap dishes for baths, curtains, current art options for pictures; background scenery for windows that looks realistic, etc. that the ‘kitchen and bath’ designers use regularly?  Thanks for listening!

    • December 9, 2015 at 6:26 pm #64205
      Jeremy Leisure
      Pilot Pro

      Lori,

      You can use SketchUp  and  get all the models you need the higher the Poly-line count the better the render will turn out on that item.  As far as the counter-top you can map any material to them giving you limitless possibilities. Other than the edge profile which you are limited on.  To do a realistic window scene go to the outside of the wall in say a 3 window run and use your SURFACE  tool to draw a rectangle  across all the windows which will result in a more realistic scene spanning across all the windows.

    • December 9, 2015 at 6:46 pm #64206
      Lori
      Participant

      Sounds like all good ideas – however – I haven’t had luck importing SketchUp items. Either I can’t find something I want (like a pendant light) or something goes wrong importing it. I haven’t tried in a while so don’t remember my specific problems. I would LOVE to be able to bring in lighting and window treatments from Sketch Up! Where can I look for instructions on using this with 2020?

      I always use Custom Material Wizard to make the counter top match the customer’s selection, but when I do this for patterned back splash tiles or flooring, they never come out just right – even using ‘seamless’ textures. Is that what you meant by ‘mapping’ them? Is there somewhere we can find detailed instructions for using all of the features of that WIZARD to customize textures? Such as – how to pick the correct size when asked? And how to use the tools inside the WIZARD program to get the best image?

      For the windows, help me understand you exactly – I view the outside of the wall, add a surface rectangle and then use Wizard to import a photograph of an actual scene? Or use the City or other backgrounds provided in 2020? (I really don’t care for the ones in the catalogs.) I have also had trouble with the SURFACE tool when I use it for back splash that has to go around windows and objects. I will draw my shape, then go back to look at it through the camera and if I need to edit it, I can edit it, but then the surface disappears. Frustrating. I appreciate your getting back to me so quickly and hope you can point me toward a place to get detailed directions for using these features. Lori

    • December 9, 2015 at 8:08 pm #64209
      Jeremy Leisure
      Pilot Pro

      Email me and I can send you my number I’ll walk you through it no problem. jeremy@ksmonterey.com   What version are you using? I use 11.2.0.60.  SketchUp is super easy to use. The problem is with the latest updates the import function gets corrupted on the 2015  model.  The work  around is simple select an older version. Click on the object >> select version 2014 or 2013  and it should import fine.  There are a ton of junk models that were simply created incorrectly. I would also stay away from heavy files (ie large MB) 20/20 doesn’t handle them too well.

      To do a back-splash can be a big pain in the a$$. I use a full version of SketchUp  and create them mostly. You can also try and find from the manufactures of the tiles the tile you need and make a 18″ x 18″ block and map it out with  the SURFACE tool in 18″ segments, it works pretty nice. You can use a  simple picture editor to  make the 18″ block. I does work  it just takes time.

      Windows and scenes take a time as well. When I go to my clients house I take pictures with my HD phone out each and every window in the room( I also take a 360 degree pic of the whole space for reference) .  I then do the math to shrink or expand the picture in a Photo Editor so I can then cut it into sections or leave it whole to span it across the windows.  I do this by using  the SURFACE tool instead of putting the pic in the window. I think it looks better.

      The SURFACE tool does disappear a lot, it is glitchy… I just redraw a lot.

    • January 23, 2016 at 11:18 pm #70928
      Rindi Daniel
      Participant

      Using newest 11.3. I feel comfortable with the new rendering tool, but I am not a fan of the the placement of the new camera.  I like the camera placement option so much better in earlier versions where you could just set the camera and its view by  scrolling through right clicking the mouse.

      -More corbels and just general room catalogs in all decor updated—especially appliances..:) Nice to have a front load with a modifiable pedastal

      -better generic appliances

      -saving textures that you can use on all designs and truly be a user-defined texture to be used on other designs without having to re-use the wizard

      -add barnwood flooring options-not enough color selections

      -modifiable or larger selection of room tiles-alot of clients are going with a variable size floor tile or rectangular tiles and not your average 4×4/12×12 etc tile.  Nice to have  catalog of more current backsplash textures

      -when writing notes, be able to adjust display settings / font size/ etc all at the same time in the window 

      -application and selections of room crown

      -larger selection of window trim and sizes (My clients typically use RB3 case molding which is 3.473″ wide and they sometimes use trim up to 5 1/2″.  It would be nice if the width of the molding would visually modify and not just allow you to change the width in the variable and it not actual change the visual. Doors as well

      -easier application of base molding to room as well as a shoe molding or quarter round.  perhaps an auto design of these areas like when you set c-tops and toekicks and trim, but he capability to stack them as well. Then be able to delete or modify areas that you want to just like you do other trims. Even if it would place room crown and you could manually lower it would be fine.

      -Thank you so much for your attention.  It truly means alot that our thoughts do not go unnoticed.

       

    • October 18, 2017 at 2:13 pm #154168
      Christopher Robles
      Participant

      It would be nice to change the dimensions of imported objects from both the cloud and sketchup so that they may actually be used…

    • October 18, 2017 at 10:55 pm #154215

      The ability in the 2020 Cloud to create your own collections.
      The ability to import items from Sketchup Warehouse to your 2020 Cloud Collection

    • October 25, 2017 at 12:54 pm #155796
      Karlie Rouzer
      Participant

      I feel like I have thought of so many things but now I cant think of any lol!

      One thing that comes to mind is in the attributes box – add-ons tab – ROOM_PLU_1 catalog… if I am switching from one sink to another as soon as I uncheck one the whole menu collapses! It would be so nice if it didnt automatically collapse.

    • October 29, 2017 at 11:43 pm #157606

      Probably mentioned before but:

      When running the Panoramic 360 Dialogue, a subset of the Design Information screen comes up. It would be nice if we could have the Dealer/Designer section of the Design Information screen stored and for this info to populate the form every time the form comes up.

    • October 31, 2017 at 9:56 am #157641
      Santiago Morales
      2020 Expert

      Hello Mike, I agree with you.  This makes a lot of sense.

      Thank you,

      Santiago.

    • October 31, 2017 at 10:46 am #157648
      Chris Blackman
      Participant

      Ok I am editing this  cuz I just realized Mike’s not on custom textures was 2 years old.

      maybe i need to sort the forums by most recent posts.

      arrgh. sorry

       

    • October 31, 2017 at 11:25 am #157706
      Santiago Morales
      2020 Expert

      @Karlie, I have taken note of your suggestion and will prioritize it in upcoming releases.

      Thank you,

      Santiago

    • October 31, 2017 at 8:26 pm #157793

      The addition of standard plumbing, electrical and other symbols that show distance to centre on plans and elevations. The FloorPlanCode ought to show on every symbol.

      I appreciate that some symbols are in the ROOM catalogue already but most don’t allow the selection of the centre measurement nor do they show the FPC which would be very handy.

      We would love to be able to use the elevations to plan our Glass Splashbacks and this would help so much.

    • November 1, 2017 at 9:03 am #157805
      Chris Blackman
      Participant

      I’d like the Snap Distance setting in Work Area to carry over to Elevations or a snap distance setting for Elevation views.

    • November 2, 2017 at 8:18 pm #158375

      Elevation Display Schema option to show height and width to centre of an object (user shapes, floor and wall decorations).

      This would be very handy for marking out waste, water and other outlets on an elevation.

    • November 3, 2017 at 9:25 am #158391
      Santiago Morales
      2020 Expert

      Thank you Mike.  It has been noted.

    • November 3, 2017 at 9:27 am #158392
      Santiago Morales
      2020 Expert

      @Chris,

      Not sure I understand your suggestion.  We already have the capability to set the snap distance in the Elevation and the Floorplan area from the Display Settings.

      Are you suggesting they should be combined into a single control?

      Thank you,

      Santiago

       

    • November 3, 2017 at 9:30 am #158393
      Santiago Morales
      2020 Expert

      @Christopher Robles, since 11.8 we are now able to modify the dimensions and texture of decorative cloud items.

      Thank you,

      Santiago

    • November 3, 2017 at 12:55 pm #158412
      Christopher Robles
      Participant

      Hi Santiago, I was experiencing a bug in the system that was resolved with customer service. Thank yo for the reply.

    • November 3, 2017 at 3:58 pm #158420
      Chris Blackman
      Participant

      the snap distance option does exist, what I would like is to be able to set a DEFAULT snap distance for Elevations. I frequently have multiple elevations open and they should all,  I think, open to whatever snap distance I prefer. Closing an elevation and then re-opening it means I have to set the snap distance again.

      I do NOT think that the work area and elevation snap distance should use the same preference, but I would like to have an elevation snap distance preference that would be static.

      Maybe it is there and I just haven’t found it.

    • November 3, 2017 at 5:57 pm #158434
      Santiago Morales
      2020 Expert

      Hello Chris,

      You can create an Elevation Scheme that contains your desired “area snap”.  From “Display Tabs Schemes” in Preferences, you can then select your newly created scheme as the default for all your Elevations.

      Hope this helps!

      Thank you,

      Santiago

    • November 5, 2017 at 7:29 pm #158436

      Hi Chris,
      Whereas what Santiago says is correct, if you aren’t familiar with Display Schemes then it might be a bit of a learning experience. The simple way to have a specific default Elevation snap is as follows (I would start with a new drawing and WARNING, this will change your default Display Scheme for all future drawings):

      1) Place a single wall and a single cabinet on that wall then create your elevation.
      2) Right click in that Elevation and choose ‘Display Settings’
      3) Make a note of the name in the ‘Scheme’ box – in my case it is 2020 (metric) Elevation
      4) Go to the Work Area tab of the Display Settings and enter your preferred snap distance in. Note that as soon as you do this, the Scheme box will turn blank.
      5) Change any other settings for the display scheme that you want set as a default. This might include the font size and type used to label the cabinets etc.
      6) Click ‘Save As’ and scroll down until you see the name you made a note of in 3) then click on that name (a tick should appear) then click ‘Save’
      7) Click ‘OK’

      Your changes have now been saved and will apply to all NEW drawings. To apply them to older drawings, open the drawing and elevation, click on the Scheme down arrow and (even if the elevation scheme name is already showing) click on the name as in 3) above. Now click apply and your preferred Elevation scheme will be applied to that elevation. Repeat for all the elevations.

      If you would prefer not to change this scheme then at 6) type in whatever name you want, click Save and then go to Preferences/Display Tabs Scheme/Elevation and from the drop down arrow, pick the new name you entered and click OK then OK out of the Preferences.

      IMHO, the 2020 Display Schemes are super powerful and useful and I would recommend playing about with them. You can have as many schemes as you want and apply them to differing drawings and elevations. We use this feature along with altering the tabs at the bottom to give our installers customised installation work sheets – for example, our floor plans AND Elevations are actually broken up into ‘Floor (all)’, ‘Floor and Tall’, ‘Wall and Tall’ etc.

      Before you start the above, I’d recommend taking a back up of the existing Schemes before you customise them. The easy way to do this is with my free little 2020 Settings backup script – get it here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/jbwkpx6h2ptp2rk/V112020SettingsSaver.zip?dl=0

      Unpack to the desktop then double click on the V112020SettingsSaver.cmd icon. Follow the instructions for the backup option and this will create a directory on the desktop called 2020RESCUE with the display schemes and other data in it.

      If you think the scheme instructions would be easier to follow in a video file, I’d be happy to create one.

    • November 6, 2017 at 12:42 pm #158505
      Chris Blackman
      Participant

      @mike – excellent. I don’t know why I didn’t think of that! Thanks and great explanation on how to set that up.

       

    • November 6, 2017 at 7:55 pm #158860
      Pauline
      Participant

      I would really like a J mould door profile with adjustments to be available for the DPLUSM01 catalogue. I have lots of clients wanting finger pull opening doors and drawers and nothing is really available currently.

      An updated handle selection would also be great and more choices for left and right hand sinks.

    • November 6, 2017 at 8:58 pm #158861
      Pauline
      Participant

      Also being able to have banks of drawers rather than just individual fronts would be good too.

    • November 6, 2017 at 11:19 pm #158879

      C & J Sections are certainly possible – see attached image. We also used to have a couple of door styles that would show as banked rather than individual but I think that was a custom modification for us by 2020 a decade back and we no longer have it.

      Both options would be very desirable.

      A Sharknose profile (fingerpull) would also be good although shortening the door and having a visible divider behind the gap would be adequate.

    • November 7, 2017 at 10:14 pm #159629

      The ability to send Private Messages via the forum.

    • November 27, 2017 at 1:58 pm #161694
      Christopher Robles
      Participant

      Hello I wanted to request the ability to change the numbering in the legend tab. In the legend tab all of the cabinets get a number, on the side of the floorplan there is an unchangeable note box with a list of all the numbered items in order of their number. I would like to be able to go into the note box and change the order and number of each cabinet to mach the numbering on my order form.

    • November 28, 2017 at 11:44 am #161889
      Chris Blackman
      Participant

      Rendering module window

      If you are rendering a saved view it would be helpful (to me at least) if the title of the window included (or had the option to include) the saved view name.

       

       

    • November 28, 2017 at 1:08 pm #161958
      Santiago Morales
      2020 Expert

      @Mike:  Thank you for your suggestion. I will share it with 2020’s web team.

    • November 28, 2017 at 1:21 pm #162001
      Santiago Morales
      2020 Expert

      @Pauline:  Thank you for your suggestion. I will share it with 2020’s Content team.

    • November 28, 2017 at 2:26 pm #162040
      Chris Blackman
      Participant

      Maybe someway to pause auto-saving, if enabled, while rendering?

    • November 28, 2017 at 2:50 pm #162084
      Santiago Morales
      2020 Expert

      Hello Chris B,

      We can definitely look into it.  What is the issue you would like to resolve?  Is it affecting the rendering performance?  Also, can you confirm which version of Design you are using?  Is is post V11.7 which has its high quality rendering done in the background?.

      Thank you,

      Santiago

    • November 28, 2017 at 3:12 pm #162091
      Chris Blackman
      Participant

      I am currently using 11.8.0.53. Yes when design auto-saves it pauses the rendering module and sometimes crashes. Although I think the crash is related to a different issue.

      I do not use the stand-alone rendering program because it does not seem to find views I save in the rendering module.

    • August 22, 2018 at 11:54 am #201059
      Lin Hamilton
      Pilot Pro

      A. I would like to select which catalogs will appear in my printed quotes.  It is very frustrating to click “save paper”, then have 14 pages printed list (1) everything from the Decorative Catalog, (2) everything from every appliance catalog used, (3) all the under cabinet lighting, and so forth.

      Yes, I can select page numbers, but even that takes time.

      B. Why does there have to be a final tally page?  If “paper saving” is checked, why put this on a separate page.

       

       

    • October 19, 2018 at 1:35 pm #209459
      Chris Setlock
      Participant

      Please, please, please give us control over the numbering system.

      2 months ago, I had to make some changes to an order after I’d placed it with my cabinet vendor.  Making those changes in 2020 caused the program to renumber the legend and the order forms, so it was nearly impossible to cross reference everything.

      I spent a full day highlighting, cross checking, and sweating bullets.  I thought I got it right.

      I didn’t. I missed a finished side and an end panel.  Now that the cabinets have arrived, I have a hot mess I have to figure out, and a cranky customer, and an annoyed contractor, and I look like a bumbler.  I don’t enjoy looking like a bumbler.

      So please, allow us to control the numbering.

    • October 31, 2018 at 11:23 am #211952
      Colin O’Neill
      Participant

      Admins: Is there any plan to add items from the old ROOM_FUR to the 2020 Cloud? There is a stool I used all the time that went away with ROOM_FUR. Thanks!

       

      Colin

    • November 8, 2018 at 10:04 pm #214938
      Pete Faber
      Participant

      Can I import the old ROOM FUR and other catalogs from an older version to my new 20/20 so I do not have to use the Cloud? In the Cloud there are not any wood stoves or fireplaces with wood mantles. I sell alternative heating products and use 20/20 to show the new heating appliance or fireplace as they would look in the customer’s room

    • November 8, 2018 at 10:22 pm #214939

      You certainly can install the older catalogues into the latest version – I’ve done that for most of my Designers. I mainly use (being Metric) ROOM_FUM, ROM_DEM and a modified ROOM_M – all of these came from the V9 days.

    • January 7, 2019 at 3:02 pm #222767
      Chris Setlock
      Participant

      Has anyone asked for dual monitor support?  I work on a laptop, but when I’m at my desk, I plug in to a 24″ monitor.  I’d love to drag all my toolbars and trays down to the laptop screen, and save the big monitor for my workspace.

    • January 7, 2019 at 3:23 pm #222768
      Chris Setlock
      Participant

      A potential time saver, especially on baths:  Allowing us to group surface areas, similar to cascading tile sheets.  If a client wants to see a different tile, I can change “tile 1” and each of the surface areas using that pattern will change.

    • January 7, 2019 at 4:51 pm #222769
      Santiago Morales
      2020 Expert

      Hello Chris,

      Thank you for your input. You can currently move all the docked windows controls onto a separate screen. Moreover, you can also move all the perspective windows. What additional controls would you like to move as well?

      I took down your request for the grouping of surfaces.

      Thank you,

      Santiago

    • January 8, 2019 at 12:19 am #222780
      Robert
      Participant

      Renderings would look better if the light properties for windows and doors could be adjusted, dimmed or turned on/off. And the scene lighting needs some help. This setting should adjust the brightness of the room instead of it looking like there are a bunch of  recessed ceiling lights that are too close to the cabinets and the top of the wall cabinets are shaded.  Your door styles could use some updating, most of them are not even usable. Same goes for your hardware. While your at it group them better, all slab then all raised- square/arch/ then  recessed and so on. Group all handles, then all knobs. Some better backgrounds for windows would be nice, pool decks, backyards, beach, lakes etc.  Same for the doors, living rooms, dining rooms, hallways etc..

      I recently purchased a 34″ wide monitor and it would be great if  there was an option for the work area, floor plans & elevations to be divided vertically

      Also a predetermined wall option like the  closed square but with cathedral ceilings would be nice. Even better would be a way to import the floor plans into 2020 right from the blueprints.

    • January 8, 2019 at 12:52 am #222781

      34″! 4K resolution I hope – I’m jealous.

      Good points although I must admit that I would rather be able to detach the elevation window and move it around – preferably (as others have mentioned) onto a different screen.

      I agree with the lighting comments – this often takes longer to get good results than I would prefer. Similarly, most of the standard stuff like knobs/handles and door styles (not to mention the default appliances) could definitely be updated. We often use patterned drawers  in both banked (pattern through the whole set of drawers) or individual (pattern per drawer) formats and this would be superb.

      Still, development is ongoing so hopefully if enough people ask…

    • January 10, 2019 at 2:09 am #223179

      One that I would dearly love to see

      New (from template) so that we can save some configs as .tpl files and then not have to set everything up from scratch each time.

      Also that the installation automatically assigns .tpl to 2020 Design rather than having to do it manually.

       

    • January 17, 2019 at 12:33 pm #224336
      Travis Davies
      Participant

      +1 Mike. This would help tremendously!

    • January 17, 2019 at 5:24 pm #224367
      Ariana Thompson
      Participant

      Hey Robert!

      Yes – I ended up creating a jpeg sheet of photos of my fave pulls and knobs with their numbers, so I didn’t have to scroll endlessly! LOL!  And I definiately use my own scenery…agree!

      FINGER PULLS for doors and drawers – something that appears on the LIP of the door or drawer would be great!

      As to the light coming in from windows and doors, you can turn it off by going to the window/door’s Light Properties and changing the colour of the light to black.

      Sometimes I’ve added a little ambient light coming through the window by turning off the light, then placing a couple of pucks behind the window pointed in – but that’s a pain – and you have to be careful you don’t get a proximity glare on your Scenery Panel/Background.

      Ariana

    • January 29, 2019 at 2:05 pm #225517
      Gregg Meyers
      Participant

      Would love to be able to move Elevation views to a second monitor, as we can with Renderings, to free up visual workspace.

    • January 31, 2019 at 8:08 pm #225770
      Robert
      Participant

      Hello Ariana,

      Thank you for the window lighting tip, changing the color to black helped tremendously!

      And Greg, I agree. being able to move the elevation to another monitor would be spectacular.

    • February 1, 2019 at 9:36 am #225784
      Santiago Morales
      2020 Expert

      Hello,

      Thank you for the Elevation undocking suggestion. Would moving the whole elevation pane (containing all active elevations) be sufficient? Or would you require the capability to move every elevations independently?

      Thank you,

      Santiago

    • February 4, 2019 at 6:39 pm #225932

      For myself, having the pane on a separate screen would be OK. Most of my users have 3 monitors so have a full floor plan on one screen, elevations on another and leaving the last screen for Outlook etc would be fine. No need to split off individual elevations.

       

    • February 4, 2019 at 7:16 pm #225933
      Travis Davies
      Participant

      Having the elevations on separate screen would be a great feature IMO. Having the elevations work with a layout open at the same time would be even better.

      Some other wishes…..

      1. Better way to add And format text across all elevations and floor plan.

      2. Better renderings. This has already been discussed but something has to be done here ASAP. This worked better in V9. Builders and Installers need clear B&W renderings not photoshop. No way of doing it in V11 that I’ve seen so far

      3. The ability to group and price rooms  separately on same drawing. If separate catalogs are needed then there needs to be a way to rename a room and not be separated by catalog.

      4. Favorites section for things that are used all the time, especially annotations/notes. A way to drag a simple note like “1 ” filler”

      5. Update all the outdated fixtures, sinks, hardware, windows, doors etc.

      6. Rendering performance improvement- Lighting that looks natural, white cabinets that actually look white.

      7. Huge wish list item. If at all possible, having a way to set up settings to print all elevation, front views, Layout etc with one or two clicks as a package.

       

    • February 12, 2019 at 8:04 pm #226830